Baldelli-Hunt gets paid rent by brother’s firm her bill could help

By Ted Nesi

WOONSOCKET, R.I. (WPRI) – State Rep. Lisa Baldelli-Hunt has acknowledged she earns rent from her brother’s check-cashing business but says she takes offense at the suggestion her ties to the industry led her to introduce a bill cracking down on his potential competitors.

“If I for one minute thought that I was doing something wrong, why would I put this [bill] in?” Baldelli-Hunt, D-Woonsocket, told “Why wouldn’t I give it to somebody else? That happens all the time – you know, ‘You want to put this bill in?'”

Baldelli-Hunt and her husband paid $410,000 in 2006 to buy 1173 Social Street in Woonsocket from a company incorporated by her brother, Dan Baldelli, who owns the pawnbroking and check-cashing firm The Gold Loan Company, city records show. Gold Loan operates one of its five locations at a kiosk in 1173 Social Street.

Asked how much her brother pays to rent the kiosk from her, Baldelli-Hunt replied: “Quite frankly, that’s none of your business.”

‘Not necessarily help’ Gold Loan

On Feb. 9, Baldelli-Hunt introduced a bill [pdf] that would eliminate an exemption in state law allowing retailers to cash checks without obtaining the same $300-a-year license that companies such as her brother’s must get. The House Corporations Committee will hold a hearing on her bill next Wednesday.

Baldelli-Hunt described the exemption as ripe for abuse. “What [this bill] could potentially do is not necessarily help my brother’s business or another check-cashers’ business, but it could potentially warrant for possibly another small business opening in an area where there is currently a lot of check-cashing happening that is happening illegally,” she said.

The legislation is the fifth one Baldelli-Hunt has put in to alter Rhode Island’s check-cashing rules since she was elected in 2006. One became law and one was vetoed by former Governor Carcieri. She said most of those dealt specifically with payday loans, a service her brother’s company is licensed to provide but does not offer currently.

Baldelli-Hunt described her expertise about check-cashing as an asset to the General Assembly. “If you happen to be informed regarding an industry in the state of Rhode Island and you’re informed about it and you understand that there are issues within that industry that need to be corrected, then I’m a disservice to my constituents if I don’t bring that forward,” she said.

No review by Ethics Commission

Rhode Island’s Code of Ethics says public officials can’t “participate in any matter as part of his or her public duties if he or she has reason to believe or expect that any person within his or her family, or any household member, is a party to or a participant in such matter, or will derive a direct monetary gain or suffer a direct monetary loss, or obtain an employment advantage, as the case may be.”

State lawmakers’ work has not been subject to the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission, which polices the code, since a 2009 Rhode Island Supreme Court ruling, and therefore there is no formal way to find out whether Baldelli-Hunt’s actions are acceptable, said John Marion, executive director of Common Cause Rhode Island.

The key question would be whether her proposals benefit a broad class or a narrow one, he said. “We do want people to talk about their area of expertise – what we don’t want them to do is use their official position to benefit them individually,” Marion said. “That’s not an easy difference to define, but judging ethics has never been easy.”

“Without a real investigation about the flow of money here and exactly how these multiple pieces of legislation would affect her brother, and in turn her as her brother’s landlord, we can’t answer for sure I don’t think,” he added.

Senate skeptical of old ethics rules

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday will consider a bill [pdf] to restore the commission’s jurisdiction over lawmakers. House Speaker Gordon Fox passed a bill to do that in 2010, but it died in the Senate, where Senate President M. Teresa Paiva Weed is an avowed skeptic of the pre-2009 status quo ante on ethics.

“I have sponsored and supported ethics reform legislation in the past,” Fox told in a statement. “We are working with the Senate and Common Cause to see if we can have something that all parties can agree upon this session.”

Baldelli-Hunt expressed reservations about any limit on the immunity lawmakers receive due to the constitution’s speech in debate clause. “I never want to get to the point where we cannot stand up on the floor and from experience speak to an issue, and then it be held against us,” she said. “We cannot stifle speech in debate.”

Baldelli-Hunt blamed her political detractors for calling attention to her work on check-cashing. All businesses that cash checks should be subject to the same rules, and the exemption is an outdated relic of the early 1990s when there were more mom-and-pop corner stores in Rhode Island, she said.

Lawmakers sees RI ‘under-regulation’

Baldelli-Hunt, who describes herself as a conservative, acknowledged her legislation would add new regulations and increase costs for some businesses at a time of high unemployment, but said the alternative would be allowing illicit check-cashing to continue under the radar.

“Why is the state of Rhode Island doing an audit on legal licensed check-cashers but not on any type of store, whether it is Shaw’s, Home Depot, Wal-Mart like you mentioned, the neighborhood convenience store – you don’t feel that there should be some kind of paper trail?” she said.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is currently testing check-cashing services in Rhode Island at nine of its locations: Coventry, Cranston, Newport, North Kingston, North Smithfield, Providence and Warwick.

“There’s a fine line between over-regualting and then we have under-regulating,” she said. “Why can’t we meet in the middle somewhere and stop over-regulating in certain small businesses and then you’re under-regulating other people without any oversight?”

Baldelli-Hunt also suggested the state needs to hire more employees at the Department of Business Regulation and the Department of Motor Vehicles. “I truly believe that DBR is understaffed, I feel that DMV is understaffed,” she said. “There are departments in the state of Rhode Island and I feel that DBR, DMV, and I can name others – they are understaffed.”

The lead co-sponsors of Baldelli-Hunt’s bill are Reps. John Carnevale, D-Providence; Leo Medina, D-Providence; Rene Menard, D-Woonsocket; and Jon Brien, D-Woonsocket. Carnevale and Medina were two of the state lawmakers who faced criminal charges last year.

Ted Nesi ( ) covers politics and the economy for and writes the Nesi’s Notes blog. Follow him on Twitter: @tednesi

(photo: General Assembly)

12 thoughts on “Baldelli-Hunt gets paid rent by brother’s firm her bill could help

  1. Another piece of fecal matter elected from a toilet bowl town. This time it is Woonsockett, it is not even an outhouse.

  2. Check Cashers are leeches on the poor. Check cashers charge a percentage of the check.

    Walmart and Shaws use Certegy for check cashing and sharge just $3 for a check up to $1,500 while Walmart charges $6 for a check over $1,500 and up to $6,000.

    Citizens Bank charges $7 to cash a Citizens customers check.

  3. If this is a conflict of interest so is a union employee or member voting on union related subjects such as mandatory arbitration.

  4. Ted, terrific reporting, as usual. I especially love this quote: “Quite frankly, it’s none of your business.”

    Actually, it’s ALL of our business. And it’s politicians like her, with their shameless, unapologetic sense of entitlement and aversion to ethical behavior that makes this state such an economic sinkhole. Baldelli-Hunt represents Woonsocket, a sad town that like many in RI had its best days in the 19th century and has never figured out how to prosper in a modern economy.

    RI will NEVER become a legitimate place to do business if we can’t change the culture of cronyism, nepotism and corruption. It’s an uphill battle, but with your solid reporting and intelligent advocacy from groups like RISC, there is a small ray of hope.

  5. This lady deserves a good long permanent vacation. This is all BS, and what’s wrong with other retail businesses cashing checks? Why should they have to pay a fee just to accommodate their customers, this is not their main product, like it is for her brother.

    Vote this self-serving dolt out.

  6. Let’s get something straight right now. Per the current R.I. Code of ethics there is no restriction on which bills a legislator can speak in favor of or vote for as long as the financial impact of the bill would favor the legislator no more than it would favor the subject of the bill. For instance, a legislator can vote on a bill favoring labor unions even if the legislator is a member of a labor union as long as the legislator gets the same benefit as any other member of that labor union (per part B of R.I. General Law 36-14-7). The state’s conflict of interest laws are designed to prevent public officials from taking advantage of their office to gain a financial advantage that most everyone else could not get. That’s the way it was from 1987 to 2009. But in 2009 the R.I. Supreme Court ruled that the speech-in-debate clause in the state constitution prevents the Ethics Commission form using a legislator’s vote as evidence that the legislator violated the state’s conflict of interest law. So now all 113 state legislators are free to use their votes to benefit themselves, their family, their friends, their business or their employer because of this “Irons” loophole in our constitution. It is called the Irons loophole because former Senate President William V. Irons used the speech-in-debate defense in court when the Ethics Commission found probably cause that he violated two laws in the state’s code of ethics. We need another amendment to the state constitution to close the Irons loophole. Right now legislators can use their speeches and votes to violate the state’s conflict of interest laws without fear of prosecution from the state’s Ethics Commission. I find this ironic considering the legislators enacted these conflict of interest laws in 1987. Actually i find the current situation the greatest injustice ever perpetuated on Rhode Islanders.

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